KIRBY QUOTE TODAY : “Let’s be honest. Georgia – if you get the best players in this state – you should be winning championships. I think we’re getting there in recruiting. I see our talent level going up. We still have some questions although we liked what we saw in the spring. We should be a team that will contend. At the University of Georgia that is the expectation. We should be a team that is favored to win the East each year. We should recruit the best players in our state which is a very productive state and develop those guys into really good players. We’re still a young team in my mind. Because over half of our roster will be freshmen or sophomores. But we’ve got some good football players coming back and I’m excited.” I agree with those statements by Kirby except on the OL where his small OL did NOT get the job done. Again. And except for young team when he loses 20 at least part-time starters after this 2017. THAT is NOT young but SENIOR-LADEN. He needs to get the freshmen on the field with them and maximize 2017. 2018 will be DOWN YEAR because we are NOT a young team and lose too much after 2017 for 2018 to be better.




“In what universe was UGA ‘patient’ with Coach Kirby Smart’s FIRED predecessor ?” “The fan base was very patient with Coach Kirby Smart’s predecessor. They were a lot more patient” high school state champion coach Rush Propst says. 16 freaking days and we were impatient after 8-year slump ?

12-14-2015 :


You think ?  We waited through 8 seasons averaging 4-losses a season, which also included these most recent 8 years 73-32 overall made-up of 37-1 vs non-bowl teams 36-31 vs bowl teams, not in the top 25 vs ranked teams for these latest 8 years, 12 losses to unranked teams time of game or for season in these most-recent 8 years, 7 losses by more than 3 TD in these current 8 years, and being unranked half the time these most current 8 years as well 2009 2010 2013 and 2015 – doing all this with the # 8 talent # 5 Most NFL Draft picks to verify his average recruiting class ranking of # 8, beating only # 21 FSU 5-loss team 2002 and # 19 Hawai’i 2007 (neither in the most latest 8 years either) as his only 2 BCS wins and his 2 best bowl wins while UGA has been to 15 Big Bowl Games winning most of them all 15 with both us and the opponents ranked at the top of the Final AP Poll for # 11 All-Time Wins UGA.

There are 33 teams Division 1-A FBS who are 10-win season 2015.  33.  UGA 17 seasons of 0 or 1 loss.  UGA 26 seasons of 80 % win percentage.

Having Mike Bobo, AJ Green, Knowshon Moreno and Matthew Stafford losing 3 games and playing 4-loss # 24 Michigan State in yet another meaningless bowl game 2008 when he won the Fulmer Cup, started this 8-year swoon slump losing it and not caring.

The only 80 % win percentage these most recent 8 years now ?  A season in which he got the shit knocked out of him 7-35 and then he tells Aaron Murray 3 times in front of me, no do not spike it like you want to.  No.  No.  I’ll catch Nick Saban off-guard and he will not expect a pass with no time on the clock.  Not be ready for it.  Coach Kirby Smart pressured Aaron Murray, tipped the pass at the line of scrimmage, AND covered the receivers on the 1 play he got then by his design.


These are his highlights and you pussies think we were NOT PATIENT 8 excruciating years of inexplicable losses to lesser-talented teams ?  In 2008, game 5 kick-off, he was 80 % win percentage 76-19.  First 95 games here 80 % exactly win percentage game 5 kick-off 2008.


Win 4 lose 1.


Win 3 lose 1 since.


What are you looking at ?


Something else ?


Here, look again would you mind ?


Bickering ?


They have a different set of rules December 14, 2015 when he was fired with cause in November.

November 29.

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16 freaking days !


He is not 75 % win percentage you friqin’ little piece of shit liar – not the games I’ve been to all these 8 solid years of ABSOLUTE nothingness boy.


Stick it up your ass !


“No question Kirby makes more of an impact than Mark,” high school state champion coach Rush Propst explained. “Mark had grown tired of the bureaucracy of that was going on. … The fan base was very patient with Mark. They were a lot more patient than they would be at Alabama or Auburn. Georgia’s just different. …  For Jeremy to go back to his home state to be a defensive coordinator is very important to him. Let me say this about Jeremy – and he won’t say this – but he wanted it to work at Georgia. He wanted to bring Georgia back to the heyday of the 80s. … When mama calls, it’s hard to say no.”




posted by Rick :

“In what universe was UGA ‘patient’ with Coach Kirby Smart’s FIRED predecessor ?  Has any program in college football history fired a coach winning 75% of his games ?  If anything, we’ve been shown to have a historically impatient fanbase, and one that largely deserves what is coming.”


posted by Brandon

“Auburn fired their coach 2 years after winning a championship and finished that year with an 0-8 conference record, 3-9 overall and lost to their two biggest rivals by a combined score of 87-0. I’m pretty sure had he done that at any point in his career he’d have been canned immediately too”


posted by Rick

“Exactly, Brandon. Mack Brown regressed. Philip Fulmer regressed. Even Frank Solich had a 7-7 season at the end (although he’s #2 to Richt as worst firing I am aware of).  While he wasn’t the .800 coach we hoped he might be in 2005, but he was every bit the .750 coach he had always been on the day we fired him.”


posted by Rick

“The sad thing is that I agree with you that a coach fired coming off a 3-9 season, and an overall winning percentage light years worse than Richt (or even Donnan) is one of the better examples out there. Auburn fired a terrible coach that happened to have a national championship. We fired the greatest coach in history because he didn’t.  Absolutely unprecedented. It’s that ridiculous article arguing for firing Osborne that you posted a while ago come true.”


posted Rick

“Yep, all things that when assessed objectively, using simple mathematical principles that we use in every other field except sports, are totally expected in a 15 year career of the greatest coach in our history.  You’re right, though, we fired him based on a list of dreary-sounding anecdotes. The problem is that if you aren’t Nick Saban, those anecdotes will pile up after 15 years.”



posted by Rick

“Overachieved relative to school history. Underachieved relative to the expectations we (including myself) had for Richt in 2005. But when you fire him, you don’t get another. You get whatever you get, and every single coach hired in the SEC this millenium that didn’t already have a top 10 finish on his resume has been a failure compared to him save one (Les Miles).  Relative to the expectation we can reasonably have for the hire we just made, he exceeded expectations at every stage in his career.”



posted by Rick

“There certainly can be differences of opinion on what is an acceptable level of success. Regardless of talent, what matters is wins and losses, and anyone who requires the UGA coach to win 80% of his games was correct to argue for his termination. He would likely never win at that rate on a consistent basis.  However, we can estimate how easy it is to find a coach that can win 80% of his games. It’s insanely difficult. The only examples in the SEC this century are a guy who already had a national title under his belt and a guy who had just won a BCS bowl at Utah to finish in the top 5.  We hired a defensive coordinator. There hasn’t been a remotely successful hire of this type in the SEC since….well, him. But hey, maybe lightning does strike the same place twice.”



posted by Rick

“Look, the way you have constructed it sounds plausible, but look out there and judge empirically: how many programs are roughly on par with UGA in terms of resources relative to their conference peers? A dozen? Twenty? I see 5 others in the SEC alone.   Why can almost none of them win consistently at a 75% rate?   The reason is that you’ve cheated in small ways with your evaluation, but those small cheats add up. 4-0 against cupcakes including Tech – should we really expect to beat tech (2015 orange bowl winners) 100% of the time? And what about out of conference teams like Clemson that we routinely face? And what about bowl games, which should presumably match us against equivalently successful foes? And what about the SEC championship game?   Most importantly, what about when the team just isn’t very good? Every non-Saban team has down years every 5 years or so. To assume a ‘floor’ of .500 in conference for those teams is wildly optimistic.  That’s why very rarely see coaches consistently winning 75% of their games, and when you get a coach that does it, it is crazy to let him go unless you have backchanneled a homerun replacement. That is so clearly not the case here.”



posted by Gaskilldawg

“If Smart makes us 20% better than the past 3 years then we will average 13.5 wins per season. Good luck with that.”



posted by Doggoned

“I get the thread, just not the incessant bickering.”